eyes wide shut who was the masked woman

You saw > her volunteer to sacrifice herself so the orgy managers would let Doctor > Cruise go free.>> If the woman in the mask had been the same woman as Mandy, you would have > expected some recognition of that from Doctor Cruise. How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all wearingmasks? that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler). The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. What a joke to call them "philosophers." Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. This website has Julienne Davis listed with photos--in all three scenes! >He also must have recognized> the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a> tinge of distinctive accent. Desire is always the desire of theOther our dreams constituring the realisation of desire. How? A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing >> this," Mandy says, "Ya." The first several times I saw the film I though what the op thought. But maybe he's just practicing forhis Boddhisatva qualification tests.- you know, the 'enlightening thegreat unwashed masses' thing. The woman who had tried to warn Bill intervenes and insists on redeeming him, at an undisclosed personal cost. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. >>>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>>wearing> masks? Indeed, the film iscentrally concerned with the failure of a 'male-centric' andpatriarchal ideology to deal with female desire; and the narrativethrust of the film revolves around Bill's increasingly hopelessefforts to flee from (but also to copy and avenge) Alice's desire, adesire from which he is completely excluded, just as he is laterexcluded from the desire-space of the power-elite at Somerton. When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him atthe orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? Perhaps it> would have worked better if there had been a photo in the news> article. (Video in comments) : r/Ghostbc Jocelyn Pook and Opening Title Music from Eyes Wide Shut (1999) | walkerhomeschoolblog. 2. If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? If the woman in the mask had been the same woman as Mandy, you would have expected some recognition of that from Doctor Cruise. >, but, besides that you're> not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do you want me to say..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. He wasn't positive. <<<<<<<<. The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. in fact if you look very closely, Mandy on the Slab, winks. What a mish mash of mentalmasturbation that is..", " Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. (4) With many people using Google maps-gps/satellite views scouring the earth, his Fortress of Solitude could be exposed. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? ANSWER. '<<<<<<<<<<< I think it is clear he was > referring to the Somerton party. Somerton could hardly be > >>>>>> described (and. Crumb Eye. > Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in a> depressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethal> drug overdose. There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. > The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as > though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be > confused.>, > 2. (Just like we dream alone, even if we're in bed with someone else.). Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any > way. At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very. What's going on?>> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? ">> "I saw her body in the morgue. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. -Herodotus, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, I thought the woman who ODd at the dance party (Mandy), the woman who, Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - I don't care to look up her name, Here is a youtube video of "Mandy" (Julienne Davis), singing in her band, I sent a message to the YouTube person who hosted those "Mandy" videos if. WebEyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubricks love letter to his wife. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. On Feb 26, 3:27 pm, "Avoid normal situations. Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. He was a master ofthatslight of hand stuff. So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? It seems evident that Kubrick carefully selected the Rothschild-owned location and hand-picked the masks worn by participants of the ritual, echoing real-life families and events. The movie went through post-production following Stanley Kubrick's death, though some have argued about how much it represents his intended vision. Related: Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best. From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Bill> has been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-> vis Mandy and the masked woman. <<<<<<<<<<. When we see the naked corpse's face from the overhead shot, at first it's hard to tell if it's really Mandy's face, because of the expression and the angle, her combed back hair etc. WebThat particular Royal event featured masked women who were as NOT dressed as those in the Eyes Wide Shut ritual. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)> would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elites> doesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who do> recognise the realities of social power and of desire are just> paranoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those who> attribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are being> properly paranoid). Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. > Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is another > mystery. When Bill thinks hes just about to score his own sexual liaison, his charade is exposed. Those critics of EWS must have > been delerious. Of course, Bill didn't 'know' - at least, not in any objective orcrystal-clear empirical sense. The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be confused. Well thats all true, but of course that was SK making a masterpiece and one of the most amazing films ever made IMO. He was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," were killers. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I > know.". it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. Mon 14th Feb 2022 19.00 GMT. WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler)", Ditto. Why would he demand that she take off> her mask if this were so? Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. at the >> ceremony/orgy.>, > Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice?>. ", "They were nutcases. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. Eyes Wide Shut: What The Mask On The Pillow Means, Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best, The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story, Why Pirates of the Caribbean Producer Wants Johnny Depp Back, Chris Pratt Joins Luigi Actor To Troll Super Mario Bros. Movie Voice Critics. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). In one of the final scenes, Bill comes home and as he comes to bed he sees Alice (Nicole Kidman) sleeping next to the same Venetian mask he wore at the party. One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shut mask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. I trhink Steven Lizberger is right. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. In the bathroom scene, there is no way to tell if Mandy has that freckle, because of her slouched position, which also makes it hard to tell her height in relation to Bill. But then again when Superman puts on a pair of plain eyeglassesLois Lane, or anyone else fails to recognize him as Clark Kent! > Simply because we don't really know the extent of the "charade," from the > Illuminatii/Secret government etc, OR what SK really had in mind---to blow > our mind. Next: The Shining: Why Stanley Kubrick Changed Stephen King's Story. >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? What else could he call it? It is odd that Bill would remember his patient he hadn't seen in at least a year, owned "Rainbow Fashions?" <<<<<<<<<<<<<>. But it is obvious from Kubrick's portrayal of Somerton that thewomen are there purely as sex-workers, are there toservice the inner sanctum of male patriarchy in the ritualized desire-space of the power elite at Somerton. He did not know who she was: she was wearing> a mask. He didn't recognise her voice. Put on some headphones and listen. > He didn't recognise her voice. He may literally have to go underground, or to the moon, etc. Congratulations. (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". and she replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," Mandy says, "I know." or psychotherapists. I mean hewas filmed only in england, but the photography behind him in thatglove clapping shot is projected or whatever and so that means that hedidn't care that mucha bout switching things around like actresses andstuff, it's about masks anyway the movie is. Before warning him, the Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? Statanic mass? Again, how is it 'clearly' the same voice? So is Ziegler lying? In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, subliminally. I actually had to look that up. This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. In keeping with the filmmaker's quest for perfection, the shoot for Eyes Wide Shut famously rolled on, with the movie holding the record for the longest consecutiveshoot, as filming began in late 1996 and wrapped in mid-1998. To take Tess or Barry Lyndon in the same context is perhaps moreappropriate to various periods stylistically divergent from an intentor device for Picasso to depict women;- a later advancement thatneedn't further qualification than figures posed in gold, as was aliteral premium exacted upon proceeds, so written by one later model,over stipends derived from the estate. How doesshe know this? Regardless of the different actresses in the credits, what I see is that the woman at the ceremony, who redeems him, apparently the "mysterious woman," has a small freckle/mole on her chest about 2 inches to her left side of center, above her breasts, which I think, can also be seen slightly on the corpse. What a joke to call them "philosophers." >>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? The lower part is made of paper-mache, while the upper one It is as if he Wanted, as if hedesired, compelled, it to be so again, its at two - simultaneousbut contradictory - levels (as ALWAYS in many of Kubrick's films -like in The Shining: are the spectral ghosts 'real' or is Jack etcimagining them? and> pleading with her to take off her mask? Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come together. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he >> was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom.>, > Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professional> doctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety than> about Mandy's actual wellbeing. >>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. Imay bewrong, but I think Kubrick intended it that way. Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. Other interpretations are floating around, including the idea Alice was also at the party, and while there's no set meaning for how the mask got on that pillow, the idea Alice put it there herself seems to be the prevailing theory. Orgy? So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figureon the basis of his eyes? However, as we might imagine, there were many who believed his death was far from natural. Much as you often dream of people, in a distorted way, whom you met while awake. It's profoundly, structurally, indeterminate >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling),<<<. Given how upset she appeared following his confession, it's very unlikely she knew exactly what he was out doing, however. How? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, ME> You can identify Pollack's eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups.>. (2) With AT&T recently announcing that they will dump almost all of their public pay phones, where can he change? But examine the frame showing the overhead shot in the morgue, with all the shots of Mandy in the bathroom. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. The film revolves around the tension between these twophenomena; it is about this tension): 1. desiring Amanda Curran to bethe Mandy from Ziegler's party would confirm his guilt - in hisprofessional capacity as a doctor attending a patient in need - aboutleaving her fate in the hands of Ziegler, serving power rather thanmorality or medical ethics, a guilt he now seeks to redress byimmediately going to visit Amanda/Mandy at the hospital to try andredeem himself; and 2. desiring Amanda to be the masked woman, a womanwho seemingly redeems Bill's Somerton-crashing guilt for him via theSomerton 'charade.'. Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. ", and for those whom may have something like an actual interest in, > In rec.arts.movies.past-films Kelpzoidzl <. > certainly not by Bill) as a 'party. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. You're coming across as yet another FUCKING TROLL!! EWS was potential. ---people with no idea of the futility and silliness of counting endless grains of sands, with their mental masturbations and perserverations. It is also perhaps worth pointing out that the Somerton events, thoughso described in countless reviews and commentaries on the film - arenot accurately called an orgy, as that would imply that female, inaddition to male, sexual desire would find free expression at such anevent. My extra-fat dictionary yields the following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots fromfrom its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface.". because Bill didn't get to see him up close like the film > audience.>, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, is this not another case of> 'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simply> because of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?> And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member of> the power elite? Carolin Ruwe, in her book Symbols in Stanley Kubrick's Movie 'Eyes Wide Shut', argues that the mask is the prime symbol of the film. ANSWERS: 4. When I did this, at first it seems like a similar, but different face, but then seeing one frame of the bathroom scene from a certain angle, it jumped out at me that it was the same person, but I could be wrong. WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. He's super modern too, so his favorite movies include Jaws, Die Hard, The Thing, Ghostbusters and Batman. Bill is, after all, wearing a mask; not only that, butthe Mandy who was in Ziegler's bathroom the night before was 1. sodrugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling), Ziegler doing all the talking and explaining. The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. And even if it was clear, even if he hadreferred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)party, it would still be uncertain, because. >>>>>>>>>If this were really the> case, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to the> masked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. If it was all a elaborate part of Bill's initiation into the order. He did not know who she was: she was wearinga mask. Technology has caught up with his disguises andcovers. Please either stop > or> shape up. >Apparently word of Bill's> entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast. >>>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone accept> anything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman> (or women) as "a hooker. ", "I saw her body in the morgue. Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. Given that you have, as you already admitted, absolutely nounderstanding of the terms used or indeed the context in which theywere used, your pedantry is now exposed as pure and contemptiblefraudulence. (meaning > the Mysterious woman), ME"So..Victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the> women at the party, well Victor, maybe i'm missing something > but what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. After Dr. Bill Harford's wife, Alice, admits to having sexual fantasies about a man she met, Bill becomes obsessed with having a sexual encounter. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-zen/. ". Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professionaldoctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety thanabout Mandy's actual wellbeing. Yes, the uncertainty about the identities of the women is Structuralto the film's splintered narrative. WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask women and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. >Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >her voice in his head while looking over the body. Again. One intriguing reading of the Eyes Wide Shutmask being on the pillow is that it's only in Bill's head as if he's exhausted by trying to hide his attempts at infidelity or true feelings from Alice, leading to an emotional breakdown. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. I enjoy the mystery entirely and will return to it over and over and could watch the film again and again. : I like the Ninth Gate alot and have watched it numerous times but it's quite. >on the balcony looking down> at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. Can it really compete with Rupert? OT. - Ziegler> wasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so as> to avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is just> between us").>>> What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning the> identities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),> sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps and> deadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just like> Ziegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' of> events. The silence of the empty mind, like the silent empty space we see in 2001, is the best path to curing your mania. we talked about this about 8 years ago on this newsgroup . Is that how youwould describe it? >>He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >>somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. As for Kelpzoid's rants on the topic - isn't there a RAW Illuminatusng out there somewhere? Whereas atSomerton, Ziegler and the others only first become suspicious of Billas an interloper because of how he arrived there (in a taxi ratherthan a limousine). > But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the events> at Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? WebEyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By NomadMessenger From $8.79 Wide Awake during 2020, by Haus of Butterfly Flat Mask By hausofbutterfly From $10.99 Eyes Wide Shut Flat Mask By ArjunVile From $10.99 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By Misschemical From $9.16 Colorful watercolor ink splash woman portrait Flat Mask By WebSynopsis. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would > she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it?>> Even though much was 'cleared" up there are still major mysteries here. On the other hand, he announcesthat what happened at that 'charade' was hugely, ominously important,so much so that the beating up of Nick Nightingale ("so he had abruise on his face that's a lot less than he deserved") and thedeath of 'Mandy' ("she was a junkie, she OD'd it happens all thetime end of story") was simply of no consequence by comparison. In a buddhist sutra, Sakyamuni, criticized the compulsive mental masturbators and referred to them as people "counting ganges sands." MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. I think this feeling of > guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. Perhaps the conspiracies surrounding Eyes Wide Shut began when the maker of the film, Stanley Kubrick, died only days after the first viewing of it. This is simple. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. If it is vague, then how can it also be 'clear'? That is a possible explanation. Perhaps itwould have worked better if there had been a photo in the newsarticle. Nevertheless, those two recollections(one of a fantasy, one of a dream) constitute the very desire whoseexclusion (from the quotidian, commonsensical, 'social reality' of theHarfords' marriage) the film is exploring. >>>>>>>>>>That would not be valuable or insightful speculation, but a totaldenial of most of what happens in the film (another variation of 'it'sall just a dream', everything being attributable to the delusions ofBill's mind, a denial of the world of social power, similar to sayingthat everything that happens to Jack Torrance in The Shining is all'in his mind'). >>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? Now that's out of the way, a brief introduction. Deleuze probably realized how stupid he was before he jumped out that window. >He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. 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